« on: March 31, 2007, 01:22:36 PM »
Just wanted to tell you I really admire what you are doing. I come from the Jun Fan/ JKD wing/branch-distant cousin
of WC and I have often dispaired that what I saw as the workable elements in WC were so terribly represented to the public. WC is a reason-based art; it gives a template for asking questions and finding answers in a realistic environment(combat) that demands the answers be truthful. But too often I find that WC artists are the least reason-based, least realistic of martial artists. The crap I hear?
"My art is too deadly to compete, spar (or practice against non-compliant partners)"
"I've never been taken down in my school that doesn't practice takedowns, so I don't think I ever will".
Guys who have never hit a moving target will lecture you ad nauseam about chi and internal shock wave damage and fa jing. (sigh). Regardless of their differences, I think JKD has been useful to WC advocates who watched seminars who saw similar movements (lets say, lop sau to hit to armbar) taught ina completely alive and non-coperative way.The same way that boxers, wrestlers and soldiers train. After training alive, I've often thought of the arts that could change very few techniques and be sucessful in fighting, and WC is at the top.
But to begin training alive means eating fist for awhile, and few people have the healthy egos and can see the big picture enough to do that. And I admire that of the club. You know you have to start somewhere, you have a plan, you know you'll take some hits while you learn to adapt to fighting unfamiliar styles, and it doesn't bother you. I think that's great. I think the club will go far if it maintains that attitude.
One of the benefits of exposure of MMA training methods through media is that so many artists can now see real, state of the art training methods for fighting. I didn't say fighting techniques, I said training methods. I think in the next couple of years we'll see other "trad" arts keep their traditional "style" of combat but update their training method, and we'll see serious, hardcore competitors from lots of arts some deem outdated and ineffectual now.
I imagine I'm a tai chi player. I get up and do my road work to the gym. I skip rope, do joint rotations, and run through the form a couple of times. I have a fight coming up, so I spend less of my training on forms than fighting techniques. My partner shows up. We work on slow, technical throws and groundfighting for an hour. I go work on the heavy bag for a while, whipping palms and snapping knuckles in the bag. I work on the throwing dummy for a while, and then lift weights before I go home. I'll be back later that day for live sparring to prepare for my fight. Lucky for me I have a variety of stylists from different backgrounds to roll with. I respect their art, and they respect mine.
To me this scenario sounds plausible, and I look forward to it happening. When artists stop hiding behind "My art is too dangerous" BS, they will really grow as fighters.
The dog brothers have a kali program called Kali Tudo that trains kali for the cage, Tim Cartmell, a Tai Chi practioner and BJJ black belt, is training fighters for MMA. Interesting things are coming, if people keep training and challenging themselves and keep their training "Reason-based". And I applaud you for leading the way as part of the WC tribe.
WC has been so fractious precisely because their students refused to ever fight or spar each other that people, being insecure of their actual fighting abilities, put their time into insults to prove their abilities.
The inevitable WC YouTube warrior that shouts "His WC is terrible! You can tell he studied with Blank because his Bong Sau is too (high, low, bent, not bent enough..). He would die in a street fight! (sigh)
Thanks for putting your chin on the line for what can be a great fighting art.
You might look into Larry Hartsells books and videos. He has some excellent work detailing flow from WC style bridging/trapping into locking/takedowns to submission. Most of it is 30 years old, as he was pretty ahead of his time. He flows nicely from JKD/WC into shootfighting and BJJ. I imagine some of what you are working on would be similar. Anyway, again, congratulations for your work.